John Lennon. "Peace Activist" and Hypocrite. The two faces of a pop icon.
74"Give Peace a Chance". A sick joke.
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John Lennon. The "Peace Activist" who supported murderers.
John Lennon's friends did this in Ireland and Britain.
John Lennon supported murders in Vietnam as well.
John Lennon shot in 1980. "Good riddance to bad rubbish".
What chance did John Lennon's friends give these people?
Forgive the vomit inducing song.
What John Lennon's friends did.
John Lennon.The "Peace Activist" who supported murderers.
In this world there are good people and bad people. There are those who will go out and sacrifice themselves for a cause, people like Gandhi, who almost starved himself to death in protest at the sectarian violence that swept India at the time of independence. Then there are those like Winnie Mandela, who gain for themselves false reputations as freedom fighters, while presiding over the murder and torture of their political opponents. But perhaps the worst type of hypocrite would be someone who made a fortune from the gullible masses, by writing and singing about their love for world peace, and then used their fame, and the money they derived from the afore mentioned gullible masses to give aid and support to an organisation which practiced murder on a massive scale. The hypocrite I am singling out for condemnation here is that "icon of the twentieth century" John Lennon, and lest any of you doubt the veracity of what I have to say, you have only to look at the picture I am placing at the head of this article.
The placard that he is carrying offers support to the Provisional IRA. This is an organisation that was dedicated to murder on a massive scale, although this does not seem to have bothered, "peace activist" and hypocrite, John Lennon.
John Lennon's friends did this in Ireland and Britain.
"Killed 1,775 people from 1970 to 2005, maimed several thousand more in shootings and explosions, and devastated scores of towns and cities in Northern Ireland and England with vehicle bombs and firebombs."
Six hundred and twenty one of those murdered by the friends of this "great peace campaigner", John Lennon, were civilians, that is men, women, and children. When you sit listening to "Imagine" or "Give peace a chance", think of that picture, and remember all of the victims.
John Lennon supported murders in Vietnam as well.
Another cause that Mr Lennon adopted as his own was that of the Vietnamese communists during the Vietnam War. In 1969, along with his wife Yoko Ono he staged a "bed in for peace" in an hotel in Amsterdam. He declared that he would maintain his protest until America withdrew from the war in Vietnam. A few years later he got his wish when they did leave that country. Between 1975 and 1980 at least 360,000 people died at the hands of his fellow travellers in that unfortunate country. There is no record of John Lennon making any protest about that. He claimed to be at the forefront of the movement for world peace, but, like the hypocrite he was, he was always highly selective about whose genocide he would condemn.
John Lennon shot in 1980. "Good riddance to bad rubbish".
The world reacted with shock when John Lennon was shot in 1980. World leaders almost fell over themselves to pay tribute to someone considered an apostle of peace. His nauseating anthem "imagine" topped the bestseller lists for months. Since then plaques have been laid, and statues have been erected to his memory. Every magazine and internet publishing site is overloaded with articles in praise of him. How easily are the people fooled. It was sad when Mark David Chapman shot John Lennon dead in 1980. But only because it was not a fitting end. It would really have been better if he could have been brought alive to Belfast, or London, or Manchester, or Birmingham, or anywhere in Vietnam. Then he should have been made to stand with another placard saying "I supported the people who murdered your husband/wife/child/grandmother/grandfather etc. I did it because I wanted to increase my millions by pretending to promote peace, while really lending support to the perpetrators of genocideā. Leave him there in any of those locations. It would have saved Mr Chapman a bullet.
What chance did John Lennon's friends give these people?
Forgive the vomit inducing song.
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Thanks for this expose, christopheranton.
Rated this UP and useful; well-written too.
What did John Lennon really believe in? It seems that he was against the very system that helped make his money.
Unfortunately, Christopher, all too often we equate brilliance or even notoriety in some field with being a "good person." Thanks for this enlightening information about John Lennon. Puts an entirely different spin on things, doesn't it?
After some reading, it seems Red Mole was a magazine that interviewed JL. And of course Yoko Ono was there as usual.
I've always believed that John Lennon was at the very least naive about life in general-now you've shown me that he supported a group that HE KNEW was engaged in terrorism.
I liked his music in the 70's and still like some of his stuff, but I thought he was a loon. Apparently, he was a hypocrite to boot.
Bloody hell Christopher, you can't club a saint over the head can you? Well maybe if you prepare a good enough case it appears you can. Anyone who tries to persuade people to stop hating their own causes is naive to start with. John Lennon did have some nasty streaks in him, but like all humans he had some good, if naive traits too. Shoveling every substance known to man, or woman, down his throat probably wouldn't have helped and living in a goldfish bowl probably wouldn't have either. He may have reflected upon his actions, given the chance and if he had listened to that incredibly sad and moving tribute to the dead and injured in the Birmingham pub bombings, i'm sure he would have thought better of what may have been an ill advised protest. I'm positive he would have been against all of the atrocities carried out in all the various conflicts around the world. I see your point and yes i have managed to conjure up a list of excuses, but he's not here to defend himself. Stupid and naive yes. Indifferent to all that suffering, no. He may have been attention seeking, perhaps we're guilty of a bit of that on hubpages ourselves. But he wasn't a trained politician or he would have put his foot even further into the mire. Those victims of the IRA deserve to be better remembered and for that alone i will accept your clubbing of my ex saint. Brilliant stuff Chris, right between my, naive eyes.
I suppose JL deluded himself. I seem to recall a statement attributed to the Beatles about their being more popular than God. Fame and fortune can do that :) and we must not forget the influence that Yoko had on him. Although this hub express a sentiment that is contrary to what most people feel about JL.It gave me a better insight on John Lennon as a person.
christopher, Lennon was always a cynic as I remember the conversations he held with the media, he seemed to manage to not answer most questions, by cynically throwing curves to not answer. He had the ability as my take was he was quite lucid, regardless of his history of education, he understood human condition better than most scholars. He led the fab four on missions to study other religions while indulging in LSD, mushrooms, opium, hash all the high end better drugs over their standard weed burning. I'm not throwing stones as I live in a glass house when it comes to experimenting with the psychotic drugs of the day. I'm saying many of the things that the group went in for was led by Lennon. He was a great, or brilliant mind that was able to reach out with the music he wrote and with a high success rate drag a generation into acceptance of his world. We all connect past times while listening to music, I don't know about you but some music when I hear it takes me back to the times when I heard it, with crystal clear memories of days where I can wrap it all up, sights, sounds, smells and just remember it like I am back to that place and time feeling it all. The hair on my neck gets tingly and it trips me out, it carries me to bad times and places that brings tears or ire to a point that was shit, and I didn't know it at the time but a replay allowed me recognition of the destruction I unwittingly, took part in. That said, I find a certain amount of mind control in music music. While many musician/ lyricists don't realize that they are able to lull a crowd as they perform or if folks hear the song years later it can still push them to a memory and inspire them to a feeling or conclusion on certain issues.
John Lennon was aware of what he could do to or for people with his music, and served the masses with strong lyrics that would touch them in a manner that made them over look what ultimately he was doing and stood for. His actions it seems if I'm right in my recognition of this hub, were as sneaky as a politician who is making a bid for re-election to office using smoke and mirror tricks to control the atmosphere of what they are screwing to us, by drawing attention to a lackadaisical left hand while the right hand is pulling a switch that scars us with something that would drop his approval rating. For the president it's for 4 more years and he is free to do anything he wants short of impeachable offenses, for Lennon it was about a level of cash that set him at a height that kept his actions to the level that he could set in the whole of the top floor of the Dakota and focus on raising a kid and possibly shuffling cah to an under ground he believed in, against the UK, despite his being crowned[if I remember right] by the Queen. Imagine that! [pun intended]. I've gone on too long here, sorry but you brought it up.OK one more, his album he'd been working on, "Starting Over" 'Backfired' on him LOL, thanks for the article it got my mind rolling,
Peace dusty
WOW!
I see myself a lot in this one - it's like the kind of things that I sometimes write about respected persons.
I'm not too certain that pop stars make good activists very often. I think I'll just go on occasionally enjoying the works of John Lennon like always. I do feel the same way about "imagine" as you do though. I can't say that I'm sick of the rest, but I'm sick of the rest of it too. I do go through some "Beatles Revival" periods from time to time though.
In the end, which of us isn't a hypocrite to some extent or another? I suspect that the best of efforts don't prevent any of us from being somewhat hypocritical about some things when seen from hindsight.
Hey Christopher! The Shaw family claims to be Irish, but of course that's not a very good claim from this distance, especially when one counts that English surnames in the mixture that I've got.
I've got a lovely Irish friend in New Jersey, from Galway, but her father had been a London Constable for a while, so she mostly grew up there. Just spoke to her is why I'm thinking of it. She said she was almost deported the last time she sent something in the mail without a return address, and that most of the rest of her family is IRA.
I'm very glad to not have ever had to deal with bombs. Even that Oklahoma City thing was too close for me, Waco Far, FAR too close, but there terrorist in that one seems to be the U.S. Federal government.
~starts morphing into Puddleglum~
You are very kind. I peruse the misspellings and typos in my comments and shudder.
As someone already said, entertainers may not make the greatest political activists. His biggest weakness was most likely his ignorance and naivete.
In criticizing one type of negative behavior - British imperialism, American intervention in Vietnam - you may end up ignoring or supporting another - IRA terrorism, atrocities committed by Vietnamese communists. The world is not divided into clear cut good guys and bad guys. And unless you are an absolute pacifist, you are going to find yourself at some point supporting one side's violent actions against another. Were people who supported military intervention in Vietnam, Libya, Iraq, and Kosovo warmongers? Were people who opposed these measures supporters of the Vietcong, Qadaffi, Hussein, and Milosevic? In a nasty world, you inevitably find yourself at some point supporting some nasty stuff.
I am not trying to justify the behavior of the IRA, and I am not arguing that John Lennon was anywhere close to being a perfect human being. But as humans go, I don't think that he was quite as bad as you describe. And violence in Northern Ireland and Vietnam was going to happen whether he was an activist or not.
Have just read an artile by Julian Lennon, slighting his father for not financially supporting him or his mother when he was a child & it confirms what I have felt about John Lennon since he was murdered in 1980; he was an hypocrite & an irresponsible miser, Yes there is the significant political activist element you raise as well. All that money & he couldn't keep his 1st child or ex wife in even menial comfort & he used cynical political activism as a modus to garner a fortune. He did have a good handle on human psychcology & gullibilities & he exploited them. & they say Paul was the business wise, hard nosed, undertalented, jingle tune writing Beatle; much prefer Paul's happiness endearing lyrics to JL's manipulating bull shit
There are some flaws in your argument. For one thing, you never mention if he at some point became aware of these atrocities and stopped giving support to the IRA. People aren't perfect. People like you pick at one thing someone may have supported out of ignorance or just a way to irritate the authority in his own country.
Vietnam was an unjust war. Weren't the Irish displaced by a British invasion. They caused death, but at least they had a viable argument. Were they not in pretty much the same position as Scotland as far as the atrocities committed against them? At some point, the loss of lives in this war overshadowed the fact that the Irish might have had a good argument in the beginning.
Bono supported the Provost party as well, but after witnessing all the bloodshed turned completely around and began to protest the loss of lives. You never mentioned if Lennon ever gave up his support for this organization later in life. Maybe he did.
The Beatles/John Lennon are part of our musical heritage. I'm so tired of hearing people p33s and moan about the culture we had before the meaningless Cr3p they make these days. The lyrics are all designed to make you be a good little child for the "parent government and the music itself SUCKS for lack of a better word. John Lennon may have simply had a lot to learn, but I think he crystallized the meaning of peace for many people.
So he wasn't perfect. Inconsistencies like these only prove one thing: that John, like everyone else is not free from flaw. After all, the only humans that would ever be flawless would not be humans - they'd be programs. This trend seems to be sucking humanity right out of the air over here. Part of this is the vilification of important Icons which gave/give us an anchor to hang onto in a world that appears to have lost it's mind.
No, most of us do not want to hear you trashing the last REAL music ever made. We don't like what has happened to people. Your criticism seems to arise from some personal dislike for John Lennon's music. Personally, I think he was AWESOME and could care a less about his (probably early) hang-up with the IRA. You are just "culture-bashing" so that all we have left is the pathetic, antiseptic, ass-backwards culture of today to look to for guidance. It doesn't seem like OUR Country, anymore: it seems more like some pitiful, candy-ass, conformist, ALIEN environment. I bet you have the same problem over there. People tell me that you do. Preserve whatever collective NATURAL means of interpreting reality that your country has. Without Icons like Lennon, people look to this "social programming" drivel to live by. Then all you'll have is a nation of dehumanized, mechanical, FAKE PEOPLE......how pathetic is that? Words really can't adequately describe the loathing I have for this pathetic "New Culture". Everyone has to be perfect......or else.
I could care a less about the points upon which you build your case against Lennon. He raised awareness despite not being a perfect example of a human being. Martin Luther King had orgies. Does this diminish my admiration for what he did for civil rights AND the sacrifice of his very life for that cause? Not one iota. People's personal lives are their own business. Lennon raised awareness despite your "truth". Go pick on someone who wasn't able to further the peace movement. Lennon raised our consciousness and he was a great man!
. Hope he had a rockin good time while he was here. He's probably up there in Heaven singing beautiful music which God himself enjoys. What are your feelings about Jim Morrison? He didn't give a flying f%$^ about World Peace and I truly adored his music. Besides, isn't "World Peace" for nutballs like Ron Artest (now "Metta World Peace"), models and "Social Programmers". The only way to have any such thing would require Global totalitarian control over the individual by some Oligarchy. Boy, would THAT suck.
Nah, World Peace is Ok and everything. It's a concept I used to utterly despise until I listened to John Lennon's music. He, in fact, did raise my awareness personally. Too bad you have such a loathing for someone who has touched my life in a very positive way.
Well-put. May peace also be with you.
I'm so sick of this 'he wasn't perfect - no one's perfect' defence. Doesn't mean that JL & others of his ilk shouldn't be exposed for hypocracy. Could have been quite easy for him to simply say - or sing 'give peace a chance', that sentiment alone speaks volumes, without tying his political colors to a mast. The man has gained saintly status, its only right that his faults should also be aired, his personal 1st family neglect decisions & the political stances he chose to support caused suffering & he did have the power to do something, he made choices & there are consequences for those choices. People need to know about the duplicity of his character
Hi, well I am shocked! not that I have really taken a lot of notice of the beatles because they were a bit before my time, well, not that long! lol but I was small when they were most famous. But I am totally knocked out about the IRA thing, well, what a hypocrite! if he was around today he probably would have invited bin laden, gaddafi, and saddam around for sunday lunch! I won't be able to listen to that song now because of this, not a loss really! lol cheers nell
The problems in Northern Ireland were never about British Imperialism. The situation there was that there was an armed terrorist organisation, (The IRA), who believed that they could force Northern Ireland out of Britain by bombing and shooting it's inhabitants. It has always been the democratically expressed wish of the majority there to stay within The United Kingdom.
this paragraph written by your good self shows you have absolutely no idea about the subject matter you to which you write about, Northern ireland only exist due to british imperialism for a start!! i could write on here for hours about how uneducated your post is but i have a life, i suggest you read some books on the history of IRELAND, you may learn something.....
you obviously havent read them very clearly then, northern ireland as a country would not exist without british imperialism. this is not my opinion it is a fact. if the english had never stepped foot on irish soil would northern ireland exist???
its lucky you dont have to be sherlock holmes because your more like scooby do, my father is from belfast and my mother from dublin, so dont spout on about the history of ireland and how the english were first invited over in 1169, you have no idea of the life people have lived during the troubles or the reasons why people decided to stand up for themselve in the easter rising of 1916, im not defending many things that have happened as they are clearly wrong and totatally unjust, im offended by your opinion that all the troubles in northern ireland have been caused by thr IRA,i suppose you can also defend the way cromwell treated the irsih or mabye the black and tans???? and dont talk to me about spouting history when this is your hub spouting your views, dont have a hub if you dont want a response.....
You should check out his financial support for convicted murderer Michael X - after he was convicted for murdering 3 people, Lennon funded his appeal. Of all the causes he could give money to, Lennon chose to support those that were killing people. All this while making money singing about peace. It makes it harder to see this as just naivite, and makes it seem more like a straight-up con.
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Chris, once again you have proven to be a very wise and caring individual, as well as a fantastic writer and a herald of truth. I loved your little conversation with MOEFLATS, which showed that you are totally realistic and fair - way to go. SG also has a good point up there in his comment.
As far as JL is concerned, I must say that I agree with you completely, and I am very sorry that such an important figure in the history of music was a scumbag...
You, sir are no Irishman, but a cretin. That is all.
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lightning john 14 months ago
Hi there Christopher, can you please elaborate more on the Red Mole? It is hard for Americans to comprehend this after living in DisneyLand for all of our lives. Thank you, Lj